April 27, 2025 — Episode #67
Recorded on the campus of Union University, Jerry and Becky Drace continue sharing “lessons learned” statements from people who’ve gone through divorce, from financial hardship to controlling relationships.
The couple discusses a hard story about a pastor discovered to have a years-long pornography habit, and the ripple effect that has on a congregation when clergy fall into hidden sin. They talk through the financial toll divorce can take, including needing public assistance, and how churches can quietly and fairly help families in need. Becky and Jerry work through several colorful “lessons learned” one-liners — including a couple who lived in separate ends of the same house and someone who described feeling like “a truck stop” for an absent spouse — and use them to talk about the danger of losing romance once children arrive. They close with a serious story about a young woman controlled by a possessive husband who required her to check in every hour, and the counseling that eventually helped heal that marriage.
Topics discussed:
- A pastor’s hidden pornography habit and its ripple effects on a church
- Financial hardship and public assistance after divorce
- Church ministries that quietly help families in financial need
- Married but emotionally disengaged spouses
- Keeping romance alive after children are born (“dialogue daily, date weekly, depart quarterly”)
- Recognizing possessive, controlling, or manipulative behavior in a spouse
- Getting counseling to save a troubled marriage
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