April 21, 2024 — Episode #16

This week’s topic from Jerry and Becky Drace’s marriage book is blunt: never insult your spouse, publicly or privately.

They talk about how name-calling and belittling erode a marriage’s foundation, sharing stories (without naming names) of spouses who habitually put each other down — including one who never let her husband forget she thought his career change beneath him, until the marriage eventually ended. They discuss tone of voice as much as word choice, reading a poem about how identical words can wound or comfort depending on delivery, and offer three listening habits — repeating, rephrasing, and reflecting — drawn from Jerry’s seminary training in pastoral counseling. They also flag warning signs worth watching for early in a dating relationship, such as a partner who isolates, demeans, or tries to control their significant other.

Topics discussed:

• The damage insults and name-calling do to a marriage
• Warning signs of controlling or demeaning dating partners
• Tone of voice versus word choice
• Repeating, rephrasing, and reflecting as listening tools
• Avoiding “you always” and “you never” accusations
• Modeling respectful speech for children
• Extending mercy rather than pointing out every fault
• Proverbs and Matthew on the power of words

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April 14, 2024 — Episode #15

Jerry and Becky Drace explain why “special time” with a spouse has to be scheduled on purpose — because if it isn’t, life will quietly steal it away.

They share a letter from a career-driven couple who realized how much their success had cost them relationally, and warn against letting children, or an overloaded work schedule, gradually take over the space a marriage once occupied. They recall favorite getaways of their own — overseas mission trips, a favorite historic town, quiet evenings on their front porch — and reflect on a mass wedding event held during the recent solar eclipse as an example of intentionally creating shared memories. The episode closes with a walk through Ecclesiastes 3’s “a time for everything” and Ephesians 5:16’s call to redeem the time.

Topics discussed:

• Why marriages tend to dissolve quietly rather than explosively
• Letting children take over the space meant for the marriage
• Carving out couple time despite demanding work schedules
• Favorite shared travel memories
• A mass wedding held during the solar eclipse
• Ecclesiastes 3 and “a time for every purpose”
• Redeeming the time from Ephesians 5
• Revisiting the “dialogue daily, date weekly, depart quarterly” habit

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April 7, 2024 — Episode #14

Continuing their communication series, Jerry and Becky Drace zero in on listening — arguably the hardest half of any conversation.

They talk about the difference between intentional listening and half-listening, sharing a humorous highway-patrol story about a couple whose bickering revealed exactly who was really in charge in that relationship. They discuss why calm, measured voices tend to command more attention and respect than shouting, pointing to Jesus’s own teaching style as an example, and talk about the challenge of getting both children and spouses to look up from their phones. The episode also touches on family devotion habits, including a longtime practice of a quick morning phone call and prayer with their children no matter where Jerry was traveling.

Topics discussed:

• The difference between hearing and truly listening
• Body language and tone as forms of communication
• Cell phone distractions during conversation
• Soft-spoken versus loud communication styles
• Modeling respectful listening for children
• The value of eating meals together as a family
• Daily phone-call devotions with children while traveling
• Scripture on inclining your ear to wisdom

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March 31, 2024 — Episode #13

Content note: brief mention of the sudden death of a family member’s infant.

Jerry and Becky Drace dig into communication — the number one complaint they hear in marriage counseling — and why couples talk constantly before the wedding and so little a few years in.

They discuss how phones and social media have replaced face-to-face conversation, even at the dinner table, sharing stories of families sitting together in restaurants while everyone stares at a screen. They talk through common gender differences in communication styles, the importance of body language, and how listening for God through Scripture, prayer, and wise counsel mirrors listening well to a spouse. Becky also shares that the conversation comes on a hard day, as she and Jerry were preparing to attend a family funeral, and how a verse from James 4:10 spoke to her that morning.

Topics discussed:

• Why communication tends to decline after the early years of marriage
• Cell phones and social media replacing face-to-face conversation
• Common differences in how husbands and wives communicate
• Reading body language and nonverbal cues
• Listening for God’s voice through Scripture and prayer
• The “back off before you spout off” principle
• Reminiscing about early attraction and first dates
• Finding comfort in Scripture during a season of grief

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March 24, 2024 — Episode #12

This week Jerry and Becky Drace tackle a resource everyone has in equal measure but few manage well: time — personal time, couple time, and family time.

They swap stories about where each of them “pulls back” to recharge (a bathtub, a sewing room, a walk in the woods) and talk about why stay-at-home parenting deserves respect rather than apology. Jerry recalls a family-ministry challenge decades ago that first pointed him toward addressing family issues on the radio, and the couple shares the “dialogue daily, date weekly, depart quarterly” rhythm one long-married couple they know uses to stay connected. They close by urging listeners, fathers especially, not to give the best of their time to people who matter least while the ones who love them most wait for their attention.

Topics discussed:

• Personal downtime and how each spouse recharges
• Swapping babysitting to make couple time affordable
• Encouraging and honoring stay-at-home parents
• The “dialogue daily, date weekly, depart quarterly” rhythm
• Cell phones and gadgets eating up family time
• Favorite family vacation traditions and memories
• Prioritizing time with children before they leave home
• Making time for prayer and Scripture each day

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March 17, 2024 — Episode #11

Content note: discussion of domestic/physical abuse in marriage, including guidance on safety planning.

Jerry and Becky Drace open their series on marriage-strengthening principles with what may be the hardest one to practice: forgiveness.

They share stories gathered from decades of marriage conferences — a husband who “buried the hatchet but not the handle,” a wife who confronted her ex-husband face-to-face years after his affair, and another who forgave a deceased spouse using an empty chair as a stand-in — illustrating that forgiveness is a choice, not just a feeling, and that offering it doesn’t guarantee it will be accepted. The conversation also turns candidly to physical abuse in marriage, addressing why victims often stay in dangerous situations and urging anyone in danger to make a safety plan and seek help. They close with five benefits of forgiveness drawn from Scripture, including Micah 7:18-19, Psalm 103:12, Isaiah 43:24, Psalm 86:5, and Romans 12:19.

Topics discussed:

• Forgiveness as a choice rather than an emotion
• “Burying the hatchet” versus truly letting go
• Recognizing and responding to physical abuse in marriage
• Extending forgiveness even when it isn’t received
• The connection between mercy, compassion, and justice
• Five biblical benefits of forgiveness
• Forgiving a spouse who has already died
• Scripture on God’s complete forgiveness of sin

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March 10, 2024 — Episode #10

Content note: this episode includes discussion of marital infidelity, patterns of domestic abuse, and one anecdote describing violent revenge fantasies before the person involved ultimately chose to forgive.

Jerry and Becky close out their chapter on forgiveness, exploring what it costs a marriage when one spouse “buries the hatchet but not the handle.”

They share stories drawn from decades of ministry — a husband who said he forgave his wife’s affair but kept bringing it back up in arguments, a woman who spent two years plotting revenge after finding her husband with her best friend before an “epiphany” led her to seek forgiveness through Scripture, and women who have had to protect themselves and their children from abusive husbands, including turning to law enforcement when necessary. They lay out five benefits of forgiveness — breaking the cycle of blame, removing anger and guilt, placing the offended on equal footing with the offender, forgiveness as an act of faith, and freedom from being defined by the past — grounded in Ephesians 4:32, Psalm 86:5, and Romans 12:19.

Topics discussed:

• Forgiveness versus retaliation or withdrawal
• Stories of infidelity and the road back to trust
• Domestic abuse and the importance of outside help
• Five benefits of forgiveness
• Forgiveness as a choice, not a feeling
• Ephesians 4:32, Psalm 86:5, and Romans 12:19

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March 3, 2024 — Episode #9

Jerry and Becky discuss why some people never say “I’m sorry” — and what that costs a marriage and the children who grow up watching it.

They share the story of a woman whose father went six weeks without speaking to her mother rather than admit fault, and discuss how children absorb the example of parents who do or don’t apologize to one another. They talk about the difference between a marriage that stays balanced through honest apology and one that erodes through pride, noting that it takes three to keep a marriage together — husband, wife, and God — but only one to tear it apart. They close with Isaiah 5:21 and James 4:10 on humility.

Topics discussed:

• Why some people never apologize, and the cost to a marriage
• How children are shaped by watching parents handle conflict
• The “three-corded” marriage versus a one-person breakdown
• Balance and communication as tools for repair
• Grandparenting as a “true test” of parenting
• Isaiah 5:21 and James 4:10 on humility

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February 25, 2024 — Episode #8

Jerry and Becky dig into a chapter of their marriage book on the power of complimenting — rather than criticizing — a spouse in front of others.

They discuss how public praise builds confidence while public put-downs, even ones played for laughs, wound a marriage, and walk through the well-known “five love languages” framework of acts of service, gifts, quality time, words of affirmation, and physical touch. Becky shares how Jerry has served her through illness and how small, consistent gestures communicate care. They also revisit how they had to intentionally step back so their daughter Rebecca and son-in-law Josh’s marriage wouldn’t be undermined by too much parental involvement, and close with an exercise: each spouse lists ten of their own best qualities and compares notes.

Topics discussed:

• The impact of public compliments versus public put-downs
• The five love languages: service, gifts, time, words, touch
• Serving a spouse through illness
• Small, consistent gestures that build a marriage
• Respecting a spouse’s position of leadership
• An exercise in listing your own top ten qualities

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February 18, 2024 — Episode #7

Drawing on a chapter from their book “44 Ways to Strengthen Your Marriage,” Jerry and Becky talk about supporting a spouse’s dreams — even decades into marriage.

Becky shares her own story of setting aside college to support Jerry’s ministry and their children, then returning to finish her undergraduate and master’s degrees in her sixties with her family’s encouragement. They discuss the danger of a spouse feeling threatened by the other’s educational or career growth, and the importance of staying “one team” while still pursuing individual calling. They close with 1 Thessalonians 5:11 on comforting and edifying one another.

Topics discussed:

• Supporting a spouse’s personal and educational dreams
• Becky’s return to college in her sixties
• Avoiding intimidation over a spouse’s career or education
• Staying a “team” while remaining distinct individuals
• Encouraging children’s dreams the same way
• 1 Thessalonians 5:11 and Genesis 1:27

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